2025 Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Occasion Information

Our information to the 2025 Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion provides suggestions & information for Magic Kingdom’s fall particular occasion at Walt Disney World. This contains accessible & offered out dates, ticket costs & reductions, schedule & technique for seeing the parade, fireworks, and characters, plus our evaluate of MNSSHP and whether or not it’s price your time & cash. (Up to date December 15, 2024.)

For these unfamiliar with it, Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion (MNSSHP) is a particular occasion that happens after Magic Kingdom closes for the day. It’s individually ticketed, that means it’s a must to pay additional for the occasion if you happen to’re already within the park as a day visitor and need to keep by means of MNSSHP. The occasion doesn’t change a lot yearly, so this information is (no less than) 95% correct for the 2025 Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion, despite the fact that it’s based mostly on the prior 12 months’s occasion.

When you’re already eager to plan forward for the 2025 Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion, the unhealthy information is that Walt Disney World has but to launch dates, tickets, or different particulars. On a constructive word, we do know that MNSSHP will return, with extra information coming quickly. If you wish to be notified when dates & tickets for the 2025 occasion are launched, subscribe to our FREE Disney e-mail publication for information & updates. For now, right here’s all the things you must know concerning the occasion…

Probably the most widespread questions we hear from readers is when will Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion dates be introduced and tickets go on sale? Our expectation is someday between January and Could 2025. It might happen throughout the coming weeks or not for a number of extra months. Historic precedent helps each.

In every of the final three years, Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion was introduced between late April and early Could throughout “Midway to Halloween.” So the apparent conclusion can be that Walt Disney World would repeat that development with one other massive “Midway to Halloween” reveal, proper?

That’s the protected guess, however maybe not. The newest “Midway to Halloween” felt like an afterthought–as if Disney was begrudgingly fulfilling an obligation. As an alternative of being a full week, it was kind of condensed right into a single day and had minimal fanfare. Clearly, Disney has no obligation to proceed “Midway to Halloween,” and it appears a bit just like the ‘occasion’ has been worn out.

The three events earlier than “Midway to Halloween” turned a factor have been introduced in mid-February, mid-January, and mid-March, respectively. That’s fairly the scattering of months, and it’s actually tough to say what’ll occur in 2025. Nevertheless, we will’t assist however take a look at 2019, when ticket gross sales started in mid-January.

That was the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. There was a lull in bookings earlier than that, inflicting Disney to scramble and attempt to get folks to e-book journeys earlier than the opening date announcement occurred. Quick-forward to 2025, and Walt Disney World isn’t opening something…however Common is debuting Epic Universe.

That new theme park is the elephant within the room in the case of nearly any dialog about 2025. It’s additionally what calls into query historic patterns, as a result of Walt Disney World may need (or want) to regulate with a view to seize bookings because it makes an attempt to compete with Epic Universe. The underside line is that whether or not it involves the discharge of 2025 MNSSHP dates & tickets or simply about some other matter, nothing is immune from the potential impression of Epic Universe. Previous precedent might exit the window as Disney creates a brand new playbook to take care of Epic Universe.

With that mentioned, our suspicion is that Walt Disney World isn’t too nervous about sluggish gross sales of 2025 Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion tickets. Each single date has offered out for the final two years, with gross sales growing even because the parks have in any other case slowed down post-pent-up demand.

There’s actually no motive to imagine MNSSHP tickets will promote slower in 2025. You may discover that tough to imagine, however a part of the Halloween Occasion’s reputation is as a result of of the slowdown. Which means that Floridians, followers, and different visitors are “buying and selling down” from costly Annual Passes and common tickets to MNSSHP. Epic Universe will damage (and profit!) Walt Disney World in a wide range of methods, but it surely’s most likely a non-factor in the case of MNSSHP.

However, Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion is intertwined with trip packages and different elements of 2025 Walt Disney World trip planning, so simply because MNSSHP will most likely (nearly definitely) promote out regardless doesn’t imply there received’t be incentive for an earlier announcement. Disney ought to need visitors planning–and “locked in” with on-site resort reservations and extra–earlier than Epic Universe opens or begins previews.

With all of that in thoughts, we’ll simply make the very broad prediction that an announcement will come no later than April 22, 2025. Past that, it actually wouldn’t shock us in the event that they went on sale as early as mid-January. Even when there isn’t a urgency, capturing that income as quickly as attainable and locking folks into journey plans is win-win for the corporate in gentle of Epic Universe.

As for the occasion itself, our prediction is that Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion will begin on or round August 8, 2025 and proceed a number of nights per week till October 31 or November 1, 2025. There have been 38 events final 12 months–we’d count on 39 to 41 nights of the 2025 Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion. (Disney normally tries to squeeze in one other date or two, and there’s loads of room earlier within the season.)

Final 12 months, dates have been August 9, 13, 16, 20, 23, 27, 30; September 2, 6, 8, 10, 13, 15, 17, 20, 22, 24, 26, 27, 29; and October 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15, 17, 18, 20, 21, 24, 25, 27, 29, 31. There was no November 1 occasion, so we’re about 50/50 on whether or not they’ll carry that again. August 8, 2025 for the primary occasion is a really protected guess, although. Talking of which, we’d count on a higher density of dates in August by means of early September 2025.

Ticket costs for the 2025 Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion will seemingly vary from $125 to $225 relying upon the date. It’s really tough to foretell costs–they skyrocketed a number of years in the past, however haven’t gone up a lot since then regardless of all dates promoting out. So Walt Disney World might keep on with the present vary ($119 to $199) or blow previous it, resetting the ground and ceiling (~$150 to $250).

The latter is prone to occur sooner or later, and it might be savvy of Walt Disney World to tear the band-aid on controversial worth will increase off versus incrementally over the course of some years, however I don’t know that 2025 would be the 12 months for a large worth enhance. (Once more, see Epic Universe down the road.)

With that in thoughts, what follows is background and planning information for Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion, based mostly on final 12 months’s occasion. It’s unlikely that a lot will change for 2025…

Let’s begin with a fast rundown of the foremost highlights at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion:

Hocus Pocus Villain Spelltacular! Watch 3 sinister sisters bewitch and bedazzle the residents of Magic Kingdom on this stage present.
Disney’s Not-So-Spooky Spectacular—a wickedly wild fireworks show that includes a few of your favourite characters and hosted by Jack Skellington, who seems in larger-than-life puppet kind.
Boogie down on the Disney Junior Jam at Cosmic Ray’s Starlight Café—that includes some favourite associates from Disney Junior reveals. It’s good for younger partygoers!
See beloved favourite floats and characters throughout Mickey’s Boo-to-You Halloween Parade.
Gather a bag stuffed with sweet as you roam the trick-or-treat trails looking for a few of your favourite sweets.
Revel within the terribly enchanting environment of Magic Kingdom throughout this limited-capacity occasion.

When you’ve attended previously, you may merely be questioning what will likely be totally different in 2025. That’s not but recognized since nothing has been introduced, however most likely not an entire lot. When you’re questioning what was new final 12 months, we coated all of that in What’s New at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion: Good & Dangerous Modifications.

If it’s been a number of years because you final attended MNSSHP, the one main change in the previous couple of years has been to the Boo to You Parade. It has acquired numerous updates, essentially the most notable of which was the addition of Minnie Mouse as Winifred Sanderson, Daisy Duck as Sarah Sanderson, and Clarabelle Cow as Mary Sanderson. That wasn’t all–there have been additionally main adjustments to the Halloween Hoedown unit (new scarecrow dancers and extra) and an expanded Villainous Finale, amongst different issues.

Nonetheless, calling these “main” adjustments might be a stretch. The underside line is that the Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion of 2024 wasn’t materially totally different from the one in 2019. Provided that tickets proceed promoting out with out adjustments, we’re guessing the MNSSHP of 2025 and 2026 received’t change an entire lot, both.

As soon as they go on sale, tickets for Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween Occasion could also be bought by calling 407-939-4240 or on-line at disneyworld.com. Annual Passholders and Disney Trip Membership Members can save $10 per ticket to Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween Occasion—legitimate just for occasion nights in August and September.

When you’ve already bought MNSSHP tickets and wish one thing that synthesizes the entire primary information concerning the occasion right into a step-by-step plan, see our Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion Itinerary. That’s extra concise, leaving out numerous background, crowd information, and the occasion is price attending within the first place, all of which is roofed on this put up.

That occasion plan has additionally been up to date based mostly on our experiences ultimately 12 months’s Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion, that means it incorporates all the things that’s new and totally different this 12 months. Although the listing of what’s modified is comparatively quick, it has main impacts on occasion planning and technique.

Right here’s all the things else you must know if you happen to’re planning on attending the occasion…

Spanning parts of three totally different months, Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion “season” is the longest particular occasion at Walt Disney World. However in equity, the one motive that Christmas isn’t longer is as a result of the timing of Halloween prevents it. Disney most likely would begin celebrating Christmas in July–actually–if they may!

Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween Occasion takes place from 7 pm till midnight on evenings when it’s held. On MNSSHP dates, Magic Kingdom is open to common visitors from 8 am till 6 pm. (Regardless of the considerably shorter hours, these are good days to go to Magic Kingdom if you happen to’re not attending the occasion. We clarify why right here.)

Ticket holders are admitted to Magic Kingdom as early as 4 pm on the legitimate date of their ticket–supplying you with extra time to take pleasure in park favorites earlier than the occasion begins. These date-specific occasion tickets don’t require an extra day theme park ticket or theme park reservation.

When you do plan on coming into the park as early as attainable to make the most of that ‘bonus’ time, we do should warn you that the road will get lengthy and it is best to most likely arrive properly prematurely–or wait till the preliminary rush is over. See this put up about Magic Kingdom “mix-in” crowds for images of the strains and technique.

Additionally through the occasion, you could have the chance to expertise a few of your favourite points of interest, together with the newly opened TRON Lightcycle Run and Tiana’s Bayou Journey. Right here’s the listing of points of interest which can be open throughout Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion:

Adventureland

The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
Pirates of the Caribbean
Swiss Household Treehouse

Frontierland

Huge Thunder Mountain Railroad
Tiana’s Bayou Journey

Liberty Sq.

Fantasyland

Prince Charming Regal Carrousel
“It’s a small world”
Peter Pan’s Flight
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Mad Tea Occasion
Beneath the Sea ~ Journey of the Little Mermaid
Seven Dwarfs Mine Prepare

Storybook Circus

Dumbo the Flying Elephant
The Barnstormer

Tomorrowland

Astro Orbiter
Buzz Lightyear’s House Ranger Spin
Monsters Inc. Chuckle Flooring
House Mountain
Tomorrowland Speedway
Tomorrowland Transit Authority Folks Mover
TRON Lightcycle / Run

Each TRON Lightcycle Run and Tiana’s Bayou Journey use a standby line–not a digital queue–throughout MNSSHP.

As for leisure, right here’s the Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion schedule:

Hocus Pocus Villain Spelltacular

August & September: 9:05 pm, 10:35 pm, 12 am
October: 7:35 pm, 9:05 pm, 10:35 pm, 12 am

Disney’s Not So Spooky Spectacular

Mickey’s Boo to You Halloween Parade

Storybook Circus Disney Junior Jam

Descendents Dance Occasion

Cadaver Dans Barbershop Quartet

Intermittently 7 pm to 10:50 pm

Rusty Cutlass Pirate Band in Adventureland

Intermittently 7:15 pm to 11:50 pm

Max Goof’s Powerline Occasion Pack

The map doesn’t listing particular meet & greet areas, however we’ve you coated:

Most important Road USA

Sally & Jack Skellington – City Sq. Theater (hottest meet & greet, line kinds at 4 pm)
Mickey Mouse – City Sq. Theater

Fantasyland

Ariel and Prince Eric – Prince Eric’s Village Market
Belle and Gaston – Maurice’s Cottage
Tigger, Pooh, Piglet, and Eeyore – The Thotful Spot close to the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Drizella and Anastasia – Fantasyland (roaming)
Witch Minnie, Pirate Goofy, Princess Daisy & Pumpkin Donald – Storybook Circus

Adventureland

Abu and Aladdin – Agrabah
Genie – Agrabah
Jafar – Close to Agrabah
Jack Sparrow – Close to Pirates of the Caribbean

Frontierland

Nation Bears – Nation Bear Theater (roaming)

Tomorrowland

Elvis Sew – Throughout from Monsters Chuckle Flooring

Talking of areas, right here’s the place you will discover trick or treating at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion:

Most important Road USA

Market Road Welcome Trick-or-Treating (open till 8:00pm)

Fantasyland

Fantasyland Prepare Station
Gaston’s Tavern
Mickey’s PhilharMagic
Princess Fairytale Corridor

Adventureland

Tortuga Treasures
Jungle Cruise
Sunshine Tree Terrace

Frontierland

Tom Sawyer Island Dock
Tiana’s Bayou Journey

Liberty Sq.

Columbia Harbour Home
Diamond Horseshoe

Tomorrowland

Carousel of Progress
Monsters, Inc. Chuckle Flooring
TRON Lightcycle Run

Upon coming into the park or selecting up occasion wristbands, visitors will likely be given a themed trick-or-treat bag (if you happen to fill it up, trick-or-treat stations may have extra accessible, so don’t fear). Sweet is complimentary and limitless–there’s no restrict to how a lot trick-or-treating you are able to do throughout MNSSHP and it’s all free!

The above areas might fluctuate barely throughout Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion, so search for the large inflatable pylon with M&Ms on it. These are brightly illuminated and must be close to the entire above-referenced eating places or rides–you’ll be able to’t miss them!

When you have a meals allergy, please see a Forged Member to select up a teal-colored deal with bag. While you trick-or-treat together with your teal bag, you’ll obtain a teal token at deal with stations. In a while, you’ll be able to redeem these teal tokens on the Allergy-Pleasant Facilities for particular treats. Allergy-friendly treats will be discovered on the Liberty Sq. Ticket Workplace (accessible till midnight) and Chamber of Commerce on Most important Road (accessible till 12:30 AM).

When you’re visiting Walt Disney World and are hoping to buy last-minute tickets to Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion on offered out dates, you may have the option to take action outdoors the park on the Visitor Relations window or inside Metropolis Corridor on Most important Road.

Now and again, there are same-day tickets accessible because of cancellations or different circumstances. If that’s the case, as an alternative of the ‘sorry of us, tonight’s occasion is offered out’ signal pictured above, you’ll seemingly see one advising {that a} restricted variety of tickets can be found for buy.

For what it’s price, we aren’t conscious of any same-day MNSSHP tickets being offered not too long ago. The more than likely state of affairs for this to happen is when there are hurricane or different climate scares inflicting folks to cancel their journeys or plans. In different phrases, it’s a longshot–however price attempting, however!

As for the enhancements to Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion from the previous few years, the primary is a alternative for Completely satisfied HalloWishes: the brand new “Disney’s Not-So-Spooky Spectacular.” These fireworks function projections, pyro, and Jack Skellington from Nightmare Earlier than Christmas as host.

Jack’s ghost canine, Zero, flies off to begin this trick-or-treating journey, the place 4 associates — Mickey, Minnie, Donald and Goofy — discover themselves drawn right into a mysterious haunted home. The journey takes them from one room of the home to a different, encountering dancing skeletons, waltzing ghosts, and a sequence of troublemaking Disney villains.

There are additionally a number of points of interest throughout the park obtain particular enhancements only for Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion…

Monsters Inc. Chuckle Flooring – While you observe the deal with path into the Monster World at Monsters Inc. Chuckle Flooring, you’ll work together in spooky methods with the comedian solid of monsters, as they be taught concerning the curious Human World vacation we name Halloween.

Mad Tea Occasion – The teacups take you for a colourful journey with added lighting and results offering a unique nighttime environment.

House Mountain – Rocket ships hurtle by means of deep area as a particular soundtrack and results rework the journey.

So you’ll be able to put together for the Halloween Occasion now, right here is our evaluation based mostly upon the final a number of years that can assist you decide whether or not this costly laborious ticket occasion is price it to you, and if that’s the case, what your “Plan of Assault” must be to effectively conquer the assorted choices. Between this occasion and Epcot’s Worldwide Meals & Wine Competition, plus bettering climate, the autumn months at Walt Disney World are considered one of our favourite occasions of 12 months to go to!

Additionally word that this information covers Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion at Walt Disney World’s Magic Kingdom, not Mickey’s Halloween Occasion (now Oogie Boogie Bash) at Disneyland Resort. For information concerning the latter, learn our complete Information to Halloween Time at Disneyland!

Ought to You Attend?

Given the excessive price of the laborious ticket occasion, you is perhaps attempting to find out, “is Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion definitely worth the cash?”

Our opinion on this query has modified over time. It was once an unequivocal sure. Then, as costs for the occasion almost doubled, it turned “sure if you wish to splurge.” Now, with costs up and Walt Disney World, it’s more durable and more durable to justify. Tickets have almost tripled in worth within the final decade.

On a constructive word, our anecdotal notion is that MNSSHP has been much less overcrowded the final 2 years than it was in October 2019, but it surely’s nonetheless busier than previous to that. It’s laborious to say whether or not the 2025 Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion will likely be kind of crowded than final 12 months. It may very well be worse, but it surely’s additionally attainable that Walt Disney World lowered the attendance cap after complaints and worth will increase.

We nonetheless love the occasion. We don’t love the crowds or costs, however we go anyway. In all probability partly due to nostalgia and partly as a result of we’ve an excellent time having fun with the expertise at a extra relaxed tempo. We don’t observe our personal itinerary on this put up since we’ve seen/executed 75% of these items in earlier years, so the stakes aren’t as excessive for us, so to talk. It’s merely a enjoyable, albeit overpriced occasion.

When you can method it from the angle of not having to perform all of it and being keen to overpay a bit for a very enjoyable and spooky night in Magic Kingdom, we are saying go for it. Simply don’t count on to go away pondering, “that was actually definitely worth the cash.” At this level, it’s laborious to come back to that conclusion.

There’s numerous particular leisure together with considered one of Disney’s finest parades and an awesome fireworks present, an awesome ambiance to the occasion together with particular decorations and lighting, a lot of distinctive character meet & greets, and even seeing different visitors in Halloween costumes makes for a enjoyable expertise.

When you do resolve to do the Halloween Occasion, make certain to purchase your tickets prematurely, and use any accessible reductions (Disney Trip Membership member, Annual Passholder, and so forth.). Tickets are costlier on the day of the occasion, and a number of other nights every year promote out utterly. It’s sensible to buy occasion tickets early if you’re going. It could stink to attend till the final minute and have your dates promote out.

As for what it is best to do through the occasion, listed below are a few of our favourite suggestions & methods…

Normal Suggestions

The primary essential tip is to select the finest day in your journey for Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion. Some nights are busier than others, and that put up covers our suggestions for selecting the least-crowded dates. Disney costs these events based mostly on historic demand, so happening the most cost effective occasion night time you’ll be able to is mostly one of the best concept from each the angle of saving cash and avoiding crowds. Win-win!

The second most essential tip is to reach early. The occasion formally begins at 7 p.m., which is when the entire leisure really begins, however visitors can enter with their occasion tickets as early as 4 p.m. When you do plan on making the most of this, plan to reach by 3:30 pm, as there will likely be a protracted line to enter and it’ll seemingly take near half-hour to get into the park round that point.

Earlier than we have been Annual Passholders, we’d plan on doing Disney Springs or a water park the morning we went to the Halloween Occasion, which allowed us to buy 1-day much less on our park tickets. We extremely suggest that you simply do the identical! In different phrases, if you happen to usually would purchase a 5-day ticket on your journey, purchase a 4-day ticket and do one thing in addition to one of many 4 theme parks earlier than 4 pm.

The extra day you’re not buying would have solely added on ~$30 in price to your complete bundle, so we’re not speaking a considerable quantity right here, but it surely makes the Halloween Occasion extra economical. To save lots of much more cash on multi-day Walt Disney World tickets, we suggest shopping for from a licensed ticket dealer promoting cheaper tickets than you should buy instantly from Disney.

Learn our Suggestions for Shopping for Low cost Walt Disney World Tickets Information for extra details about saving cash on park tickets. You’ll be able to’t purchase Halloween Occasion tickets from these approved ticket sellers, however the quantity you save in your common park tickets plus the financial savings on that additional day you’re not buying will assist offset the added price of the occasion tickets.

The subsequent greatest tip is to put on a dressing up–and one which’s applicable for Florida climate! Though Disney has had some tweaks to its safety coverage over the previous couple of years, costumes are allowed for all visitors.

Right here’s Disney’s official phrase on costumes: “whereas costumed apparel could also be worn, visitors ages 14 and older are strongly discouraged from sporting layered costumes or costume props that encompass your complete physique as they might be topic to extra safety screening. Moreover, costumes could not include any weapons that resemble or might simply be mistaken for an precise weapon.”

At the least half of the Friends who attend the occasion put on costumes, and it’s much more enjoyable if you happen to do. You’re spending a good chunk of change to attend considered one of these events, ensure you get as a lot worth on your cash as attainable by sporting a dressing up.

You don’t want to purchase some costly costume from the shop–make one at residence from objects you purchase at a thrift store. Sarah and I attended Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion as the next: astronauts; an elf and princess; and “Cute Minnie” and a Toy Story Alien, amongst different issues. More often than not, our costumes are fairly lame as in comparison with different visitors, however we nonetheless have numerous enjoyable!

For costumes, go cheap, easy, and most significantly…LIGHTWEIGHT. We have now a Information to Halloween Costumes for the Disney Parks that covers the nuts and bolts. Suffice to say, we’ve worn heavier costumes, and let me let you know what a mistake that was. It might be cooler at nighttime within the fall, but it surely’s nonetheless Florida, and it’s nonetheless humid and sizzling.

A remaining tip is to go on the Disney’s Not So Spooky Spectacular Dessert Occasion at Tomorrowland Terrace. That is corresponding to the common fireworks dessert occasion, besides with Halloween-decorated desserts. (Learn extra in Eating & Dessert Events Throughout Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion.)

Past being a waste of cash, the dessert occasion is a waste of time. There are simply too many different nice issues to do at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion (it’s unlikely you are able to do the entire common leisure in a single night time) to justify attending a dessert occasion. It’s simply not price taking the time from the common superior leisure of the Halloween occasion to do that. Plus, the thought of one other upcharge occasion inside an upcharge occasion simply makes us cringe.

With that mentioned, let’s begin to get into the main points of arriving with a plan for the way it is best to method the night leisure and characters. We have now a Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion Itinerary on Web page 2.

Arrive at 4 p.m., seize an occasion map for a refresher as to what’s situated the place and leisure showtimes, eat an early dinner, do an attraction or two, and knock out a few daytime PhotoPass Magic Photographs for Halloween. When you’re enthusiastic about ‘accumulating’ the entire unique photos through the occasion, see our Information to ALL PhotoPass Magic Photographs at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Occasion.

If in any respect attainable, discover a option to keep away from trick or treating or put it aside till the top of the night time. It’s a main time drain, and you possibly can purchase a bag of sweet your self for like $3. It might be tough to persuade children to not trick or deal with, however if you happen to can, discover a manner. There’s a lot leisure through the Halloween Occasion that you simply received’t get all the things executed even if you happen to don’t trick or deal with and don’t do any points of interest.